GR Yaris Gen 2 Germany: Torque Restriction Due to Euro 6e-bis

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Hi,

I’m currently considering buying a GR Yaris Gen2 in Germany, but I’ve noticed that the official torque figure has been reduced from 390 Nm to 345 Nm on the German-spec cars, reportedly due to Euro 6e-bis regulations.

I’m curious what the community thinks about this:

  • Is it only an ECU remap that reduces the torque, or are there any hardware changes as well?
  • Has anyone driven both the 390 Nm and 345 Nm versions? How noticeable is the difference in real-world driving?
  • I’m currently undecided between ordering a new car or looking for a used one that still has the 390 Nm rating. I test-drove a GR Yaris with 390 Nm, but I haven’t had the chance to drive the new 345 Nm version.

Another question I have is about the future of the GR Yaris.

From what I’ve read, the transition from Euro 6e-bis to Euro 7 is approaching, and emissions regulations are becoming increasingly strict. Euro 6e-bis will remain valid until November 2027.

https://www.adac.de/rund-ums-fahrzeug/auto-kaufen-verkaufen/neuwagenkauf/euro-6d-6e/

Do you think Toyota will continue to develop and sell the GR Yaris in Europe, or is there a risk that it could eventually be discontinued?

As a potential buyer, I’m trying to decide whether to buy a new one now or search for a used 390 Nm model, so I’d really appreciate hearing your opinions.

Thanks!

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-Yes it’s only an ECU remap to fit the Euro 6e Norm.

-Yes i did, the difference is noticeable and disapointing. That’s why i tuned my GR

-If i where you i would buy a used one with 390 Nm

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Agree with that, I‘d go for a 390 second-hand car.

I don’t see emission restrictions going less strict in the future btw.

Cheers

4

It is noticeable, but far less than the jump from Stock Tune to a proper remap. I’d also recommend a used and already modified gen1/gen2 to safe a ton of money.

5

My dilemma is between new Aeropackage/Steering Wheel vs. 390Nm. I’m not sure if I could drive the car as stock in the limit. So is that +45Nm really necessary for me.

I can imagine that I could feel the difference when i drive them back to back. Sadly the dealers around my region do not have any GRs for test drive. I’m at region 71xxx in Germany so if anybody knows where I can test drive it let me know

And if its gonna be tuned anyway which I’m not planning actually, then its also not important if it’s 390 or 345.

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Ich würde die Entscheidung gar nicht nur an den 45 Nm festmachen. Wenn du den Wagen erstmal serienmäßig fahren möchtest, ist wichtiger, wie sich die beiden Varianten im normalen Alltag und auf kurvigen Strecken tatsächlich anfühlen. 345 Nm sind ja immer noch eine ordentliche Ansage, und vermutlich merkt man den Unterschied vor allem im direkten Vergleich oder bei höheren Lasten. Wenn dir das Aeropackage und das Lenkrad beim Neuwagen wichtig sind, würde ich deshalb nicht automatisch wegen der 390 Nm auf einen gebrauchten Wagen wechseln. Andererseits hast du beim Gebrauchten den Vorteil, dass du genau weißt, was du bekommst. Am besten wäre wirklich eine Probefahrt mit beiden Versionen.